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Post by jeffmorgan on Apr 30, 2014 3:28:52 GMT
Hi All. This is my first post on the forum, I live in Australia and would like to ask a question-
I would like to find the exact spot where Henry Tudor landed in August 1485, I found that during my research,authors,societies, and the media all tend to differ as to where the landing actually took place.
Some say that it was a small cove at the end of a promontory just south of the village of Dale, others point to Mill Bay that lies between the towns of Pembroke and Neyland. [Google earth ]
The cove south of Dale is small and access from the beach is narrow and steep [ Google earth ] and with 2,000 men, horses, and their war supplies this would seem to prove rather difficult ?
The only positive with regards this choice is that they could land directly from the open sea practically unseen ?
Although the invasion fleet would have to negotiate the channel from the entrance of Milford Haven to Mill Bay the landing here looks more favourable, sheltered water, and the access from the beach looks far better,
also right opposite his birth place, Pembroke castle, and a shorter route to Haverfordwest.
My wife and I will be visiting South Wales as part of our holiday this summer, we fly into the UK from Australia in June. Back in 1990 I visited most of the battlefields associated with the "Wars of the Roses" and finished the tour
at Bosworth field.
I also managed to walk around that part of the coast south of Dale, and even then I thought it was an odd place to land an army ? but I could be wrong ?
So if someone could help me with my quest, and if successful I shall visit the spot this year. Thank you. Jeff Lloyd.
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Post by Jeff Lloyd on May 4, 2014 9:43:53 GMT
Although not completely positive, I may be able to answer my own question, on closer inspection of the the coast line near Dale with Google earth, there are possibly two favorable beaches that could have been used for an invasion fleet to land 2,000 soldiers, horses and supplies.
The beach directly opposite the village of Dale and another a little further along opposite Windmill farm would seem to be the best choice, and also if the tide was judged correctly.
I suppose I shall have to visit all the possibilities and trust in my imagination !
Thank you. Jeff Lloyd.
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Post by jeffmorgan on May 17, 2014 5:14:18 GMT
Is there no one with an historical background on the forum who would like to hazard a guess as to where this may have taken place ?. You are based where this historical event took place and may have a lot more access to this information than I.
I am a ex-Welshman living in Australia and if possible would like to know where this all happened before I leave these shores. I have everything thing else regarding the route taken to Bosworth. [Haverfordwest/Cardigan/Welshpool/Shrewsbury/Newport/Lichfield/Tamworth/Atherstone/Ambion hill] but not his first starting point on Welsh soil.
Thank you. Jeff Lloyd.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 1:10:19 GMT
Hi Jeff
Apologies for the late reply.
How was your trip to Wales? Being a West Walian I'd certainly like to know more about it!
RE Henry's landing - I suppose we will never know for certain where it was but historical evidence and modern theorising seems to base it in the vicinity of Mill Bay not far from Dale. Its a bit difficult to get to these days, a good few mile work along tricky terrain and up and down hills and through fields of cows and bulls. Not something to undertake without preperation as I've discovered a few times.
I understand the theory about landing at Mill Bay to avoid detection from Dale Castle but I also possibly subscribe to Chris Skidmore's theory that only part of the army landed whilst the rest shadowed the march by sea up the coast to mid wales.
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